Processor Upgrade/Cooling

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Post by Guest » 03/25/02, 2:30 pm

I have a Presario 5000 5WV280 with an AMD Athlon 900MHz processor. I've been told by Compaq that I can upgrade to a 1400MHz Athlon (Thunderbird) without upgrading my Motherboard. What I'm wondering is if I need a new heatsink, or if one comes with the processor, or if the one I have is fine. Also, I only have a 145 Watt power supply and I'm wondering if it would be beneficial (or even possible) to buy a new case with a 245 or 300 Watt power supply with more fans for better cooling? I have maxed out my RAM, upgraded the CDRW drive to a 32x TDK and installed a DVD player. I'd just like to speed things up a tad with the processor as well as install Windows 2000 Professional (which I've done before, next to Red Hat). So, any advice you may have would be beneficial and greatly appreciated. I live in a very rural area and there is a serious shortage of geeks here. <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

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Post by bob » 03/25/02, 2:49 pm

There's a shortage of geeks everywhere, except the internet--we need a secret sign....

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Post by JohnT » 03/25/02, 3:10 pm

Have you considered the price of the upgrade using you old mobo? Case fans and good heatsinks are cheap, use plenty. There are packages available where you buy the mobo and the processor is the thrown in and you can realize a nice cost-savings. 900 to 1.4 isn't much of an upgrade still using your old board, but if the box isn't that old, I'd probably hold off on an upgrade. Go visit http://www.tigerdirect.com/



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Post by Guest » 03/25/02, 11:20 pm

Thanks for the advice. :-)

The price of the 1400 Athlon is $100. The increase from 900 to 1400 isn't much, but I thought it would help? I don't have any experience with mobo's, cpu's and heatsinks so I was reluctant to tackle a mobo upgrade. I've heard that there can be compatability issues, but if my current hw configuration works with a generic Compaq oem mobo, a newer one should do fine, right? ;-)

The case isn't that old, but it only has one little fan and 145 watts. What is I upgrade the mobo and cpu as well as the case and add some fans? It would be more costly, but less than a new pc and more fun.

I've also read about these "Barebones" kits that include a mobo, cpu, fans, case, power supply, etc. You can get a decent AMD Athlon XP 1900+ for around $500. Would it work to plug my sound card, modem, cdrw and dvd drives into one of those - or is that oversimplifying and begging for a nightmare?

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Post by JohnT » 03/26/02, 12:03 am

From the link I gave you can get a mobo+cpu(AMD1800) for well under $300 then add a case with front and rear fan openings(the price fluctuates dependent on your preferences) and a 300watt power supply. Purchase your case fans at same locale, but for CPU cooling I would recommend......"Thermalmasters".....http://store.yahoo.com/thermalmasters/index.html

The mobo combos come with excellent instructions for newbies, just take your time, lay-out your project well and you'll be succesfull. (Don't forget heatsink grease.)If your hardware is fairly generic, there is no reason for compatibility issues. Ibrought over my HD, sound and vid card from my old box. Pay attention to bios settings. I did have some problems using the mobo drivers w/2K and uninstalled them as the Win ones were more compatible.



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Post by Guest » 03/26/02, 3:52 am

That's exactly the advice I was seeking. I checked out the link you gave me, made alot of notes, and came to the same conclusion. ;-) Buy a new mobo/cpu and case with power supply and xtra fans. I figure I can do it for about $400 and just swap over all my older components. My HD is 30GB 7200rpm which is just fine for me, I have a new DVD and DCRW, the modem is USR 56k, the sound card isn't a big deal, but maybe I'll upgrade the graphics card ... when I can afford to. :-) It's good to know that the instructions are designed for newbies. That eases the concerns.

Is there any particluar brand of mobo you would recommend, or advise against?

Thanks again for all your help. I can read about what to buy and how to put it together forever... but without hearing from a real person how some of this works, I just feel unprepared jumping right into it. Thanks. :-)

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Post by JohnT » 03/26/02, 8:26 am

There's a link on Tiger at the top of the page to order a catalog. Get one and you can look at detail, at your leisure. Pay attention to whether sound and video are incorperated and how the board is setup for upgrades. The final descision will be based on your usage.

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Post by RedRage » 03/26/02, 9:46 am

you can always check http://www.pricewatch.com for good deals. MWave is decent and compuplus.com isn't bad.

you do wana watch with pricewatch.. sometimes you get a retailer that isn't always on the up and up.

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Post by JohnT » 03/26/02, 10:03 am

If you don't feel confident enough to do the job without instruction, go to the bookstore and pick up a good book on upgrading and repairing PC's. A $20 investment that will go a long way.
I wouldn't make a recommendation as to your choice of mobo/cpu not knowing you personally. Don't rush things and try to learn all you can about what you want your computer to do. Then look for the best option for your situation. Only "YOU" know what you want.

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Post by SOD » 03/26/02, 11:13 am

Yup John is right
I have this mobo Amptron K7-817Lm($115.00) with 1.3 Athlon chip. I built it runs like a top...What I liked about the Amptron mobo was the easy bios setup, has a decent on board sound card, (out board option) Acer PCI control and the option of DDR or regular RAM. (I now use DDR) I also used this setup in Redhat install with no problems at all.(except for Linux itself :-)) A new power supply should be part of your plans and is sometimes the most overlooked part of a computer. Have fun

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Post by bob » 03/26/02, 11:40 am

How are you finding DDR ram, SOD--is it twice as fast? Have twice the capacity (?). Or not?

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Post by Dark Shadow » 03/26/02, 5:19 pm

Trust me, you feel the difference between Sdram and DDR. EDO ram is like driving a semi, SDRam like a van, DDR like a Corvette, and RDRam like a Viper. :)

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Post by Guest » 03/27/02, 12:33 am

Thanks for all your advice. I will take it slow and do my research. :-)

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