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Post by coeus » 12/17/01, 3:11 am

We all know there are 4 major parts to a home PC.

Monitor
A Box
Mouse
Keyboard

All but 1 is not needed any more.
THE MOUSE. Kill it or what not.

This is where my question begins.


Which OSs support input from the monitor? so we can finally get rid of the mouse.
Doesn't it make sense to combine the monitor and mouse?

Problems? there are few.

1) People with fat fingers.
2) Larger GUIs. But this WILL increase general speed of users. Pretty much todays version of LCARS (oh LCARS!).
3) You start to require much larger screens. no smaller than a 19" maybe?
4) Playing 1stPS and so on that requite a mouse.
5) this idea that the OS is designed for input from the monitor requires the concept that the computer is designed for business, school and general productivity. If you wanna play games, buy a PS2.

The technology is small enough to start implamenting this and why hasn't it been done?
Should this a be a feature people start demanding for?

thanks alot.
Daniel

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Post by bob » 12/17/01, 4:22 am

It has been implemented--for example, many pos machines take screen input. The technology's been around for a long time, just not put into the home pc. Perhaps this is why: Even with a 19" screen, would you want a significant portion of it taken up by a keyboard? The pos machines I'm speaking of only function for very limited imput--burger, fries, coke.... And yes, punch the TOGO button too... Now a mouse, that might be differend.... drag the cursor across the screen with your fingertip, doubleclick on it (as if it were a touchpad..... Well, might be good, though it would depend on close positioning of your screen, easy to reach.... My screen's 24" away, and set to my left, not only would I have to stretch out my arm, but I'm right handed... inconvenient without changing the configuration to which I've become accustomed.... but still.... might work.

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Post by Melkor » 12/17/01, 8:04 am

What I can't stand about sitting down at the computer is Finger Prints on the screen.

Cost
An intertated display, input device is going to be more expensive to fix and build.
K.I.S.S. also aplies to computers. The simpler it is the less prown it is to brake.
As it is more complex the manufacturing price will go up. The price might be twice as much.

It has it's applications where you don't want people using a mouse or track ball. Public ware on those devices would cause failure. If the system fails the owner no long makes income off the box. ie CD catolog in The Wall. Home users are not comfortable with touch screens, just not as fast atleast not yet. But a touch keyboard i would buy, where you don't actualy have to press keys down. I remember somewhere someone building one. Wired or Scientific American or MIT's Technology Review. But yes LCARs take up alot of space. But I believe in a work setting LCARS could work quite well. You could spill coffee on your workstation and not short anything out. Also big smooth surface are easy to clean.
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Post by bob » 12/17/01, 10:11 am

I'd advise you not to spill coffee on the monitor if you value your life---lots of volts running through that thing.

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Post by JohnT » 12/17/01, 11:08 am

The only thing I want to lift my arm up off the desk for is a cup of java. (Not "Windex for Windows ©") <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif">

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Post by prion » 12/27/01, 3:32 pm

there is a system in the computer labs at school where you can select your print job from a touch screen, so this is being used. still, the implementation is a little weak. you think you hit the button but you really hit above it or something, this is possibly becuase of the curvature of the screen. and as you all might expect it is covered with nasty fingerprints.

I think the problem is that even as we use bigger monitors we display more information and more controls as well. Looking at my screen now, if I reach donw to hit my start button, I could hit either the netscape mail or navigator button as well, because my finger is larger than a mouse hotspot. selecting tray icon would also be hard as would be attempting to simulate a right mouse click, not to mention the scroll wheel. There are ways but I think the mouse will continue to be useful for some time.

Touch screens are useful for buttons and not much more, maybe as they get cheaper we will start to use them more often as a supplement to what we already have.

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