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Post by coeus » 01/30/02, 9:10 pm

Hello peoples,

well, over the recent month or 2 I've been heavily considering buying an imac. the first generation of imacs. all of this has been spured by what Apples ideas are about computers and the digital hub idea. for a single box they pack a punch, the top of the line imac has 600 mhz G3, 256mb RAM and a CD burner, at a total price of 2,195.00 (AUS). I consider this great value.

Mac OS X has been a serious part of this consideration. Unix stability with a mac GUI...what could be better? hmm...LCARS...anyways <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

but this is also where my doubts start.
I have yet to see a website, or magazine article plainly stating that Mac OS X can run linux software.

so can Mac OS X run linux software?
please, either yes or no.

If it does, I believe this is where Apple is going to win in the desktop wars between MS, Linux and itself. because everybody enjoys free software, but if you have to change OS just to use it because you cant compile it on windows, then you wont use it, youll find freeware somewhere else. if it compiles on a mac, then everybody might switch to it all because its easy and refined. Ive used linux for about 2 weeks straight, and i would call it the rawest OS ive ever used! These companies that are claiming to make Linux easy to use is going to fail. Computer have been around for ages, and my generation (im 16) has grown up with them, but still the majority of them are computer irliterate. Linux wont be in on the desktop (like microsoft is) for say another 40-60 years (when my kids grow up) thats if at all out generation decids the use it. nows thats some serious to consider!!!!

oh, by the way.
thanks alot for answering my question.

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Post by JohnT » 01/31/02, 2:45 am

The reference is to Unix rather than Linux specific. Reported to have some compatibility with BSD. If true, there are plenty of packages available.
BTW, it's already on the desktop.(mine anyway <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">)

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Post by vipe » 01/31/02, 3:20 am

For some weird reason, I've been thinking about buying an Apple computer these last couple months. Does anyone here have or use one? The last I've touched was Apple ][. I loved the games too, Kings Quest & Oregon Trail so owned back then, heh.
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Post by RedRage » 01/31/02, 4:10 am

I've thought about it as well. We have one at work that runs OSX and i got a shell account on. It is quite a bit different but not completly. I haven't used the new interface much, but i do like it alot better than MacClassic.
Alot of BSD packages can be made to work on it, I think all you need to do is recompile it.

The new Imac looks pretty sweet, I looks like it has a swivel base and a Flat pannel, along with beefier inards, it could be a good system to have. I've been really looking hard at the new iBooks. When we pulled one outa its box i thought it was the manual until another guy opened it.

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Post by Guest » 01/31/02, 12:32 pm

On 2002-01-31 05:10, coeus wrote:

>but this is also where my doubts start.
>I have yet to see a website, or magazine article
>plainly stating that Mac OS X can run linux software.

>so can Mac OS X run linux software?
>please, either yes or no.

Maybe.

There are two issues.

The first is hardware. The iMac uses the PowerPC chip. Most Linux installations use an Intel X86 processor. So you would need a binary compiled for the PowerPC chip. You couldn't just grab a progam off a Linux box, drop it on your iMac, and expect it to work.

The second is the OS flavor. Mac OS X is a Unix variant, as is Linux, but there can be signifigant differences on the programming level between Unix flavors. Linux is essentially an AT&T Unix System V compatible OS. OS X, if I recall correctly, is based on the Mach micro-kernet with various tweaks, and the GNU tools to complete the offering. To a program, it looks more like the BSD flavor of Unix, which is a <I>very</I> different animal.

The real question is "Will the source code for this Linix application I like compile and run successfully on OS X?" The likely answer is "Some will, some won't, and the stuff that won't will take varying amounts of effort to fix so that they will build and run." (There is nothing like trying to port to a new architecture to show you exactly how <I>non-</I>portable your code is...)

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